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Hi all Ill start with saying I am very new to all this. I am a very geometric oriented person and I view things as images and not equations. So most times I can figure out and know how things work but I just can't explain how they work in terms or equations. I have just started studying quantum physics and could possibly use some adjustments to my perception in the matter so I could be misunderstanding but here goes... I am wondering if I could get the opinions and teachings of some people here who are allot smarter than I about this thought that popped into my mind. Again... maybe this is already out there as part of a theorem but as I stated I am new and haven't study in depth yet about quantum physics.

So on the thought of perpetual motion. We have seen and heard much about this "coined" phrase of perpetual motion. Most people don't understand its implications and thus use the term incorrectly when speaking about a well engineered system that "appears" perpetual at the finite moment but in actuality is a digression of energy rather then a constant with no loss.

It came to mind today. I remember reading how in quantum physics electrons seem to "quantum leap" thus it is impossible to locate their exact location at any given moment. Quantum leaping suggesting electrons are existent inter dimensionally. Leaving one dimension to another and back again giving the illusion that they are "disappearing" and "reappearing" in and out of existence. My thought was this. Is their proof that the system of the atom is one that digresses with time according to the "laws" of physics or is it actually a system which maintains and equal energy through time. If it digresses I may be off track. Do we die because our atoms slow down and destabilize or do we die because we in our dimension fail because our laws of physics state we have expended our maximum out put as a being.

OK so the core of my thought... if electrons quantum leap wouldn't that mean they essentially enter a different dimension and for that time while existing in that dimension they share the physics of that dimension which would mean they expend the energy in that dimension that had been obtained within the first dimension. Supposing multiple dimensions do not share the same output of our dimensional physics but instead hold their own enclosed system yet are regulated by the same fundamental laws. Would it be safe to say the atom holds the properties of perpetual motion because of quantum leaping? Now I agree in our dimension perpetual motion goes against our laws of physics because it states that the natural digression or expenditure of energy can be over come. But what if it is possible to achieve through quantum leaping? Sharing energy with the other dimension in which case the electron holds an equal "momentum"????? in other words if it expended the energy in our dimension's system of physics it would essential "slow down" the electron but instead it expends the energy in the other dimensions and is then reinstated into the first dimension to "regain" its original measurement of energy. In our dimension it would appear perpetual that it never lost energy nor gained any but in essence it would complete the natural laws of physics in the other dimension where we wouldn't see it... Did I make sense? I don't know. Just a thought. I could be wrong. Any statements would be appreciated. please respond reasonably I already stated I am new, if I am off just teach me where I am wrong so I can be corrected. We were all once drooling infants who needed to learn if you put one apple next to the other it makes two apples.... :-) Thanks all!

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This is complete and utter nonsense. I think you're looking for psuedosciencerandombollocksoverflow.com

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  1. General comment. You can't do physics with just words. Mathematics is what makes physical statements well-defined. For example, you are asking whether the system of the atom "digresses." This question doesn't make any sense. What does it mean for a system to digress?

  2. Quantum leaping doesn't suggest anything about electrons existing in other dimensions. To find out what quantum leaping really means, read a book about quantum mechanics. If you work hard at understanding it, it will blow your mind more even more than "inter-dimensional leaping."

  3. We don't die because our atoms slow down; our atoms are perfectly fine when we die. We don't die because we have expended our maximum output as a being, either. We continually receive energy from food. We die for much more complicated, biological reasons which I am not qualified to write much about. Read some biology stuff about the process of aging.

  4. Again, electron transitions between energy states don't suggest inter-dimensional anything, so it's hard to make sense of this last paragraph.

My recommendation to you is this: first, learn about the conservation of energy. It is extremely important to understand. Then, learn why it is, exactly, that perpetual motion is considered "impossible." The reasons are more complicated than you seem to appreciate. They have to do with entropy and thermodynamics. Is the motion of the Earth around the Sun perpetual motion? What if I throw a tennis ball in outer space?

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I think you missed a few important details here. First off you can know an Electron's position or velocity just not both at the same time. Due to the fact that to determine the position you affect the velocity. And to determine the velocity you affect the position. (yeah there is a little more to it than that but that's the basic idea.) This has nothing to do with quantum leaping.

As far as the 'Quantum Leap' (not the TV show) between energy states the electron still requires the input or loss of energy to change states. They do require the steady input of energy to maintain a specific state, and constantly lose energy when in any specific state. Which is why we have those fun spectroscopy labs in class. The different colored light given of is of the energy level of the difference in energy between the two states.

OK all that being said, Electron's are not jumping between dimensions. Think of the energy states as railroad tracks. The train can be on any of the tracks, but only on the tracks, given the right amount energy (for this poor analogy we will call the energy change flipping the switch). SO if you are given enough energy (flip the switch on the track) the train goes to another track. Or the electron goes to another state. Now let us assume that all of the switches are set up to keep the train on the original track. Unless you flip each switch (keep adding energy) the train will return to its default state (it will keep losing energy)

So no perpetual motion, and no dimension hopping.

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